Coming from first hand experience with mentally challenged kids all i can say in response to aubrey's question is no. It's disgusting how people thing of children/adults with mental or physical difficulties as animals, or morphed in some odd way. I agree with Jim, the thought of using abortion as a way out of taking care of a child with a defficiency is disheartening on so many levels. My friend adopted a boy six years ago, no knowing that he was autistic. She's a single mother with a 12 year old son and gets no support financially or emotionally from her jack ass of a husband. Like Aubrey said, it's hard raising a child with needs on a low income, yet she manages to do it. yea sure it help that the state pays me to watch him thirty hours a week so she can free time; but she's one of the most caring, patient, fun, loving, inviting people I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. So no, I think it's wrong, immoral and down right unethical to even *think* of aborting a child just because you know that they will be born with a defect. For god sake, if it's a planned birth why the hell wouldn't you want that child? God, or whomever is up there, gave you this *being* for a reason. Yes it's hypocritical of me to be be anti-abortion on this subject, but if you want a child, and you planned the birth, and one little hiccup such as a defect gets in the way, you shouldn't be ALLOWED to have children. having a child with a "defect" has PROVEN to sober parents to the point of changing their outlook on life and how they live day to day. Babies are babies, people are people. Even if your child is going to be born with three noses, take pride in the fact that they will have an extra sense of smell ya know? I don't know, I'm just ranting now because it's killing me since I have had so much to do with Pro Rights of Physically/Mentally Challenged Youth....
And Aubrey, I'm not saying what your mom was thinking was wrong, at all, because I understand where she's coming from. But if you can carry the child to term, and are able to give birth and are of proper age, I don't see why said person couldn't choose adoption as an option there. Also the state is improving the funds for mentally/physically disabled families and there are many options for people who aren't able to afford 24/7 care for their children. Jenny McCarthy recently donated 2 M for research and development of homes for mentally disabled youth (her son has autism)...
I guess the point is this: There are OPTIONS for cases such as this. NWSRA (I work for them) ClearBrook, (I work for them too), Respite Workers Employed By The State ( 10 bucks an hour paid in full by the state to care for children/teens so parents can get things done and not worry about the safety of their children) The Todd Fund (Research center for Autism), Kylestreehouse.org (Site/location for those in need of help), NAA (gives you resources and respite workers), neurodiversity housing (provides housing for autistic/down syndrome kids/teens/and adults). so I mean there are SOOO many options, and most of the time when people are faced with this situation, it's with a couple who WANTS a child.
Sunday, September 30, 2007
Kim.. I think you brought up great points with saying if you were in that situation that you probably wouldn't keep it. Now that I think about it, if I was in that position I would really have to sit down with my parents and that other person and figure things out. It would be a really hard thing to go through. I know that my family will always back me up, no matter what happens. We have already had to go through unplanned pregnancies twice in my family. As hard as it is, because my parents and grandparents were brought up in different times and with different beliefs, they are still there for them. I have real life experiences to see how hard it is for them and how much you will miss out on (college, going out, etc.). I'm not saying that the baby has ruined their life, but at this age they shouldn't be having to deal with all these problems. They are supposed to be experiencing college. They had to grow up earlier than they intended to. Not only physical stress but emotional too. They aren't married, and who knows what would have happened if they didn't have the baby. Now it's almost like he has to stay with her because of their baby. I wouldn't want my family to have to go through all that again, but I don't know if I could live with myself knowing that I killed a baby.
Birth defects. I would definitely keep the baby. Yes, it may be hard, but I would never want to give up a baby just because it may have a birth defect. Most parents love their children so much more and are so close to them because their children are very dependent when they have birth defects. I know it costs a lot of money. I would rather have a child that I love than live with knowing that I was too worried about money to keep it. No one is going to be perfect. I would learn how to give my child the needs that it needs and love it that much more.
Birth defects. I would definitely keep the baby. Yes, it may be hard, but I would never want to give up a baby just because it may have a birth defect. Most parents love their children so much more and are so close to them because their children are very dependent when they have birth defects. I know it costs a lot of money. I would rather have a child that I love than live with knowing that I was too worried about money to keep it. No one is going to be perfect. I would learn how to give my child the needs that it needs and love it that much more.
When it comes to birth defects i dont even feel there should be a discussion on this topic. The thought of terminating a baby with birth defect brings chills down my spine. Just because they have somesort of defect doen't make them any less deserving of life or living a happy one at that. If that is the excuse that people will use for abortion then i am entirely against it and believe it is completely wrong. Like i said before the only case i would consider is if the woman got raped and something really bad happened. To get an abortion just because it has a defect makes me sick to my stomach.
to Aubrey's question...
Well, like most of my responses... my opinion depends on the situation. But let's say that I was an adult and married, and was purposely pregnant...
I understand the difficulties and can see both sides to this question. I have been thinking about both sides, and what it would be like whether I was financially stable or working two jobs.... so I think I have figured out my answer.
Although it would lead to an insanely difficult life, I would 100 % keep a child with a serious birth defect. This would be one of the most challenging things to do, because having a child who requires double the attention and one on one care than most children is sooo hard. From the day that baby would be born, both parent's lives would never be the same. Of course all parents are less selfish and give so much for their children, but from what I have experienced, parents of children born with birth defects, however severe, are some of the most selfLess people on this planet. They give up all personal lives and spare time to help teach their children and help them grow, even though it is so much harder and so different than if their child had not had a birth defect. They are patient, loving people who grow amazingly strong, enormous hearts and embrace their child and challenges in a positive way. (i understand not all people are like this, but this is from what i have seen and know, and what I hope I could do if ever in this situation.)
This is also a tough situation because of finances. Many special needs children require lots of medical or whatever kinds of bills, and depending on how financially stable I was, I'm sure this would make me scared. But I would hope that if ever in this situation, i would have a strong support system of family and friends to help keep me going and support that baby. Sure, it would suck and be so much hard work to raise a child who costs more than babies already cost if i was not financially stable or well off or whatever you want to call it. But I would find a way to keep the family together.
So in a way, even though life would be tough and curveballs would definately be thrown into the picture, I would (and hopefully will someday in many Many years :) ) embrace whatever situation a planned pregnancy would throw at me because I would get to grow and become more patient and live my life for my child, whether it is born "normal", whatever that may be, or with birth defects. Thanks for bringing this up, Aub. It really made me think.
I understand the difficulties and can see both sides to this question. I have been thinking about both sides, and what it would be like whether I was financially stable or working two jobs.... so I think I have figured out my answer.
Although it would lead to an insanely difficult life, I would 100 % keep a child with a serious birth defect. This would be one of the most challenging things to do, because having a child who requires double the attention and one on one care than most children is sooo hard. From the day that baby would be born, both parent's lives would never be the same. Of course all parents are less selfish and give so much for their children, but from what I have experienced, parents of children born with birth defects, however severe, are some of the most selfLess people on this planet. They give up all personal lives and spare time to help teach their children and help them grow, even though it is so much harder and so different than if their child had not had a birth defect. They are patient, loving people who grow amazingly strong, enormous hearts and embrace their child and challenges in a positive way. (i understand not all people are like this, but this is from what i have seen and know, and what I hope I could do if ever in this situation.)
This is also a tough situation because of finances. Many special needs children require lots of medical or whatever kinds of bills, and depending on how financially stable I was, I'm sure this would make me scared. But I would hope that if ever in this situation, i would have a strong support system of family and friends to help keep me going and support that baby. Sure, it would suck and be so much hard work to raise a child who costs more than babies already cost if i was not financially stable or well off or whatever you want to call it. But I would find a way to keep the family together.
So in a way, even though life would be tough and curveballs would definately be thrown into the picture, I would (and hopefully will someday in many Many years :) ) embrace whatever situation a planned pregnancy would throw at me because I would get to grow and become more patient and live my life for my child, whether it is born "normal", whatever that may be, or with birth defects. Thanks for bringing this up, Aub. It really made me think.
And Something that Hasn't been Brought up
Birth defects. We haven't even touched on the issue of prenatal screening. So you'r pregnant, go in for routing check ups, and at one of you're visits, the doctor has bad news. You're child has a birth defect. Do you keep it, or terminate it? Many women, like my mother, wanted so very badly to get pregnant. My mom worked full time as a manager in a hospital at the time of her pregnancies with me and my sister. Had me or my sister been born with a birth defect, she wouldnt have been able to raise us and give us the 24/7 attention a child with birth defects needs. It just isn't in many people's budgets to stop working altogether to raised a handicapped child. My mom was lucky, and me and my sister were fine, but even with her and my dad's salaries, they would not have been able to take care of us past the 12 week pregancy leave. Knowing your child had a birth defect, would you keep it, knowing they would be completely dependant on you for the rest of their lives, or save the trouble and abort it?
Kim- I'm glad you posted that.. because I agree. It is such a complicated issue, and of course abortion is sad and it can suck- but life can be sad and it can suck so I guess that's how it is. I feel like such a hypocrite when I blame the girls who get pregnant for not being safe or whatever. Because I know if I was to get pregnant right now, I wouldn't want to go through with it. I guess it would depend on the father and the reactions from both sides of our parents. If they were willing to help raise the kid and support him or her financially for a while, then maybe I could keep it. Or maybe I would put it up for adoption. But then you think of all those kids who spend so much of their childhoods in foster care and end up bitter, you don't want to create that. Maybe it would be the best choice to get rid of it before it is born so you save yourself, your child, family, guy who got you pregnant, and everyone else from a lot of hardships in trying to care for another baby.
I think what I'm realizing is that everyone should have the option. No one can say what is right for all others.
I think what I'm realizing is that everyone should have the option. No one can say what is right for all others.
Response to Kimberly
I'll start off with a question. Whether they're young or old, when a person has sex, are they at the same time accepting full responsibility of the possible consequences of their actions? I'm sure that as seniors in high school, many of us have all ready had sexual experiences, or have at least thought about it. So I ask YOU, are you ready to raise a child? I know that's not the first thing most couples think about as they're undressing. Anyway, Kimberly, I could not have said it better. First and foremost, I am PRO-CHOICE becasue I do not believe that one person has the right to take away someone else' s right. I'm not saying that if put in that situation I would have an abortion, but I do know that if I wasn't ready to raise a child on my own, I would not bring them into this world to suffer. Everyone on here has said, so you get pregnant, have the baby, you learn your lesson. I believe that having to live with that pain everyday knowing you killed your own child would be enough of a lesson, rather than bringing another person into the punishment. Accidents happen, pregnancies can also happen, whether you're a churchgoing Bible-hugger, or a hooker on the corner. Everyone messes up sometimes, and needs a way out. When a teenager or anyone makes the decision to become sexually active, there are many different issues brought into consideration, depending on the person. So do you believe that it's RIGHT for a young scared person to bring another child into this world? Yes, there are different options, but how many of those will give your baby the life he/she deserves? Sabrina and I also have the same views, if you put your child up for adoption, there's a greater possibility that you're giving them up to a life of violence and delinquency. Or is it RIGHT to spare your innocent child the pain of growing up, knowing his/her parents didnt love them enough to keep them, spare them of the violence and lonliness, and just get an abortion? I believe that it's more selfish for a person to keep a baby they cannot take care of, then to terminate the baby and spare them the harsh realities of life. Everyone's situation is different, some children of teen parents end up with a great life. THEY GET LUCKY. But the truth is, the majority dont end up that way.
Wow
Wow, so this topic that is being discussed is definately a big one. I have been reading what everyone has been saying, and I have been trying to figure out what my opinion on abortion truly is. I am prochoice. I know it is against the Bible, and some consider it murder, and that there are tons and tons and thousands of arguments against it, but I am. I am not someone who only believes in abortion if a woman is raped, however. I completely believe if a woman is raped it is her choice to terminate her pregnancy, carry it out and raise the baby, or give the baby up to adoption. However, I also believe the issue of abortion is more complicated than If Raped: abortion is Okay. If Pregnant but Not from Rape: it's Wrong.
Yes, if you are a teen who made an unwise decision to have unsafe sex that is stupid. We can all shake our fingers and look down upon these girls, but what good does that do? Either way, there is a 3 week pregnant teen who has her whole life waiting for her... school, sports, scholarships, friends, college, her family, church..... and if she did get caught up in the moment and make a poor decision, what? She has to complete a full term pregnancy and be shunned from her family and friends? It is hard for me to say this because my opinion changes slightly each day, but I think that if she cannot have a baby, whether it is because of her family or church or whatever... abortion is okay, as long as it is within the legal time limits of having an abortion and she isn't already a few months into her pregnancy.
I know I am going to get ripped on for saying all of this, but it's such a tough call. Sometimes I think "No, she did it, its her fault, she should carry out all nine months and then use the adoption option. But then I put myself in that situation, and my opinion changes. I ask myself, What if that was me?
If it were me, pregnant as a senior in high school, cheerleading, church leader, family expectations to live up to.... I don't think I would be able to carry out nine months. I wouldnt want my family or friends to even know. I think abortion is a woman (and her partner, if she has one who is involved)'s choice.
Yes, if you are a teen who made an unwise decision to have unsafe sex that is stupid. We can all shake our fingers and look down upon these girls, but what good does that do? Either way, there is a 3 week pregnant teen who has her whole life waiting for her... school, sports, scholarships, friends, college, her family, church..... and if she did get caught up in the moment and make a poor decision, what? She has to complete a full term pregnancy and be shunned from her family and friends? It is hard for me to say this because my opinion changes slightly each day, but I think that if she cannot have a baby, whether it is because of her family or church or whatever... abortion is okay, as long as it is within the legal time limits of having an abortion and she isn't already a few months into her pregnancy.
I know I am going to get ripped on for saying all of this, but it's such a tough call. Sometimes I think "No, she did it, its her fault, she should carry out all nine months and then use the adoption option. But then I put myself in that situation, and my opinion changes. I ask myself, What if that was me?
If it were me, pregnant as a senior in high school, cheerleading, church leader, family expectations to live up to.... I don't think I would be able to carry out nine months. I wouldnt want my family or friends to even know. I think abortion is a woman (and her partner, if she has one who is involved)'s choice.
After reading most peoples posts they are saying that they don't have a problem with abortion if the women is raped. I agree wtih that to. The woman who was raped had no control over anything. She wasn't planning on getting raped and becoming pregnant. In many cases where that has probably happened the woman who got raped isn't even ready for a child and doesn't have the right necessities to care for that child anyway. I mean they could always put it up for adoption but she had no control over hte situation so i think it is okay to have an abortion if the woman is raped.
Iraq
I've noticed that a lot of people feel that we should just pull out of Iraq right away and ideallistically that would seem to be the most obvious solution. We went to war with Iraq on false pretenses and to this day our government has still neglected to come up with a valid reason for our presence there. Our president told us that we had to go into Iraq to fight terrorism because they had "weapons of mass destruction." He gave off the impression that Iraq had some how been involved with helping Bin Laden in the 9/11 attack. Then, it turns out that, wow! Osama Bin Laden had absolutely nothing to do with Iraq or Sadam Hussein and guess what? No weapons of mass destruction were found either...oops? The reason that we are (and at this point need) to be there is because we have we have caused such turmoil and destruction in this nation that to just leave them in the condtion they are in would not be right. Not to have gone there in the first place...yeah that would have been a good idea!!! But at this point we really can't just pack up and go.
Our attempt to bring Democracy to Iraq is not realistic. These people are not educated in the same way that people from our country are, they don't understand democracy and it is ridiculous to think that they could just abandon their tradition and become accustomed to that of a foreign land. The rivalry between the tribes of the Sunni and Shiite has only expanded as there is now tension between groups within each tribe. Basically, whatever our intentions, we have caused a lot of hardship for people from this country and there really isn't much we can do about it at this point. Our best bet is to read up on the situation and pay attention to what people say about it...especially with the upcoming election. A lot of us will be 18 and it's important to know whats going on so that necessary changes can be made for the future.
Our attempt to bring Democracy to Iraq is not realistic. These people are not educated in the same way that people from our country are, they don't understand democracy and it is ridiculous to think that they could just abandon their tradition and become accustomed to that of a foreign land. The rivalry between the tribes of the Sunni and Shiite has only expanded as there is now tension between groups within each tribe. Basically, whatever our intentions, we have caused a lot of hardship for people from this country and there really isn't much we can do about it at this point. Our best bet is to read up on the situation and pay attention to what people say about it...especially with the upcoming election. A lot of us will be 18 and it's important to know whats going on so that necessary changes can be made for the future.
So IT seems....
it seems that people are coming to the decision that they are against abortion...but when it comes down to rape there's a current based opinion that abortion should be an option. Honestly I'm pro-choice, but I think that when we it comes down to it, when I'm in the situation, that's when I'll decide what's going to happen.
I think that if a woman is raped, she should have the option to have an abortion. I am against it, but it would probably be very hard for that woman to take care of a baby that she was forced into making. It wasn't her choice to have sex with that man, she was forced by him. I think it's horrible that a guy would ever do that, and it's even worse for the girl. There are so many problems that result after rape. In rape cases or other special circumstances, is the only time they should have the option for an abortion. All the other situations, it's just an easy way out for them. They should have thought that through before making the decision to have unprotected sex.
Abortion
I am one of those people who doesnt realy have a strong opinion about abortion. I can see either side of the argument. My big thing is that its your fault for getting pregnant in the first place (with the exception of rape). You should be safe, and if your not, there are conciquences. I think it is horrible for someone that cant support a child to become pregnant, but i dont think abortion is the way to go. I think the child should be adopted by a family that can supprot it and give it a good life. The problem is that there isnt always a family that will adopt the child and they wil end up in foster care or something. Im not sure what the answer is but abortion crosses the moral spectrum and i dont know if it is the right choice. Is abortion murder? There are too many questions that subject brings up. I really think the best thing to do is either not have sex, or use proper protection, and there will not be a need for abortion.
Talk about abortion has been going on for years and years. In my opinion, abortion is not as bad as people think, under the right circumstances though. People that are anti abortion have to take into effect the rape possibliilties. People taht are raped in my mind have an exception to the no abortion policy. The baby was never meant to be born, and it's not fair to the woman to make her have the kid. I know that it is a serious issue in the U.S. right now but we have to take into consideration some of the mishaps that could happen and not punish the people by making them have the baby.
Abortion
I have never really thought about abortion that much but i never really had a problem with it. I was thinking about it though and i guess i am kinda against it. The girl who gets pregnat that was her choice to do that and not be protected...even if she was theres sitll that slight chance of getting pregnant. I think since they got themselves into that situation they have to live through it cuz that was their choice and they have to figure out how to deal with it. You could always put it up for adoption if you dont want to keep it cuz then your not killing it, your giving it the oppurtunity to have a greater life since you know that you wont be able to give that to that baby. There are probably other ways other than abortion, i dont know but i am against it. I'm glad that topic came up though cuz i have never really thought about it until like now.
Saturday, September 29, 2007
Abortion
I'm more of a pro-choice kind of guy when it comes to abortion. I don't really think of an unborn baby as really "alive", and I don't think of abortion as "murder". But I think it's stupid that people have unsafe sex not intending to have a child. It's just irresponsible and careless of people to not use birth control, and to not want to have a baby. I think those people having abortions are just irresponsible and taking the easy way out. But I would understand if a woman was raped and wanted to have an abortion. I'd vote pro-choice because everyone has different reasons for wanting or not wanting abortion. I just think people need to be smart, and I'd suggest that if someone didn't want to have a baby, they should give it up for adoption. That way, it wouldn't be "murder" and that child could grow up in a loving family that wants that child.
Abortion
That is sad when a woman decides to have abortion. My old school alot of girls where pregrant like freshmens and stuff it was sad because they had gotten abortion. I think thats really sad how you could kill your own child. I would never tell my girl freind or wife to have abortion no matter what happens I would want my child. It is just sad how so many people now dayz are having abortion. My opinion is just keep the child and if you cant take care of it just let a family memeber take care of the child. If my girl friend was pregrant I would want her to have the baby if we couldnt take care of it due to school and stuff. I would let my mom or a family member of hers take of my child. I dont want to think about how many realtionships had a girl pregrant and they had to have abortion that is one of the most sadest things. I hate when people are like oh well we can just have a new baby. Thats like murder or if you really dont want it just put it up for adaption so many woman cant have babys they wouldnt mind taking the baby. But thats my opninon many people see it as a different way....
I think it's a lot easier for a guy to sit there and say that it's not a big deal. In most cases the guy doesn't even stick around to be in the woman's life that he got pregnant and his own child's. There are so many things to go through while being pregnant. I know from some family experiences that unplanned pregnancies are very tough. My cousin got his girlfriend pregnant. They both decided they would go through with it. He played football at college, and it was really hard for him to deal with school, football, and then finding out his girlfriend was pregnant. She could have gone to college for basketball, but couldn't because she was having this child. She didn't get to experience going away to college. Instead, she's starting her life early and everything changed. I'm not saying all guys do, but most guys will just walk out when something like this happens. The woman is left dealing with everything and worrying about all that is going on.
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Maybe the fact that I'm a girl makes me think differently about this, and maybe because I'm a liberal... I don't know. But the fact of the matter is this: If a guy was able to get pregnant and not the woman, then I know more guys would rally in support of abortion. Men don't understand fully the stress and trauma of giving birth, especially at such a young age. Yea sure girls had an option not to have sex, but so did the guy who got her pregnant. Who's the one that has to wear the condom? Yes, girls can go on BC but there's a high risk of blood clots which, which I know from experience, can kill you. ( I was not on BC it was from surgery). So yes, sure a girl had the choice, but so did the guy. So here's a question to think about. If guys were the ones getting pregnant, the ones who had to get fat, big boobs, out of control hormones, PPD (Post Pardum Depression which 25% of women get after giving birth), the chance of dying during birth, or having a miscarriage, not being able to go to college, having a minimum wage paying job with zero to no benefits, and not being able to send your child to college plus having a below standard of living, would you still go through with it at such a young age? (Just so you know this is what most likely happens to teen mothers, whose boyfriend left them after she gave birth. 90% of the time the teen mother will not give the child up for adoption. Could you really think of giving away your own flesh and blood after going through almost 30 hours of tearing, bleeding painful birth?) (sorry to gross you all out)
Abortion
Personally, I don't think abortion is a great thing. When a man and a woman have sex and simply do not use protection, killing a child is not an effective way to deal with the situation. I can definitely understand why people get abortions, and in the case of rape victims abortion should really be an option. I think there are other alternatives, such as adoption, or maybe taking responsibility for your actions and raising the child. I read Freakonomics over the summer and it discussed abortion and a drop in crime. After analyzing some information, it was realized that since abortion was made available many would-be criminals were killed off. As horrible as it sounds, abortion was kind of a good thing. Just an interesting fact.
abortion
I am not really against abortion. I understand why some girls want to get rid of their pregnancy. When they are forced to have sex with somebody else. They don't want to see their child because it would remind them that it wasn't their coice to have that child. But in case when the the girl wanted to have sex, I don't think that they should be allowed to have abortion. Because it is their fault and the guy that they had sex with.In Poland abortion is a crime.
Friday, September 28, 2007
abortion
Yeah I mean i understand why some people have a problem with abortion but what I don't understand is how some people ridicule people for getting an abortion. It is a choice that that person has made and a person has no right to say that they can't have this procedure done. Also, I think, in some cases, that you have to step inside the girl who is carrying a child that she knows she can't afford or is not ready to care for another life. I don't know, I think it is a very controversial argument that can get tossed around either way. Yet, in my opinon I think that girls should use the adoption agencies when they have a baby. It is easy and you don't have to kill any life at all.
Abortion
Personally, its not for me....i cant imagine doing that. i think its every womens choice....lets say that a 13 year old is forced to have sex and she gets pregnant. Do people seriously think that she wants the kid let alone have it. Shes always gonna remember that night whenever she sees or thinks about the kid.
And what about the morning after pill? Do they protest against that? I mean its basically doing the same thing. But nonetheless i do understand why they are protesting against abortion.
And what about the morning after pill? Do they protest against that? I mean its basically doing the same thing. But nonetheless i do understand why they are protesting against abortion.
Abortion
Abortion is a topic that is very controversial. For me I am totally against it but just like the gay marriage topic, you make decisions for people and you can't control what they do. Abortion to me is just killing a innocent baby who hasn't had a chance at life at all. I think its sad that some one would want to kill an innocent baby because there are so many different options once you have the baby. It seems like many people that go through with the pregnancy end up loving the child but others may not. There are always people looking for a child to adopt and adoptions would be better for the child then not being loved.
I would understand some reasons why women would want to get abortions, examples are if they were raped and they don't want to go there all the pain of giving birth to the child. To me I think everyone has a reason for being on earth but if women get abortions they aren't given that chance.
Abortions are illegal in some parts of the country, I think, but I think there is danger in making abortions illegal. When women are desperate to get the abortions they can do it in many different ways that may injure themselves forever and may even kill themselves with out meaning too.
I would understand some reasons why women would want to get abortions, examples are if they were raped and they don't want to go there all the pain of giving birth to the child. To me I think everyone has a reason for being on earth but if women get abortions they aren't given that chance.
Abortions are illegal in some parts of the country, I think, but I think there is danger in making abortions illegal. When women are desperate to get the abortions they can do it in many different ways that may injure themselves forever and may even kill themselves with out meaning too.
I never really thought abortion was that horrible of a thing. I always thought that if that's really the extent someone had to go then that's their problem and they have to deal with it. That changed my soph. year because I did a debate on it. I was on the side that was against it so I had to research it. I found out so many things I had never known. Now, I think it's a horrible thing. How can you take away the oppurtunity for an unborn child to live because you may have made a mistake by getting pregnant. Sex is a big thing, and before doing it you should know the consequences. There are so many ways around getting pregnant. There is birth control, condoms, etc. I think that a person has to accept the choice they made and have to live through it. That's how you learn from mistakes. There are certain cases, like rape, where it's a totally different situation, but in the rest, I think there is no reason for it. It's horrible to know that young adults kill babies because they didn't think things through.
Abortion
Sorry to break up the topic of college, but I just recently read on the news that people are protesting a free clinic in Aurora (being built). Someone was quoting in saying, "Why would you intentionally kill a child?...." Here's my opinion on this. Everyday our population is expanding, in some countries past the point of a good standard of living. I'm not saying procreating is bad, at all, but if the mother can't support herself let alone her child what is the point? She'd just be ruining her life as well as her child's. Yea sure there's adoption, but what's the chance that the said child won't be abused in foster care, go down a delinquent path because he/she hasn't been adopted, nor never will be. Everyday children are sexually, physically and mentally abused in foster care. If there's a chance to stop such absurdity by stopping the pregnancy from furthering past the point of 15 weeks why would you wouldn't you? Imagine if your sister, mother, girlfriend, or even daughter has been raped. 15% of rape cases end in pregnancy because the asshole was too stupid to even bother with protection. Would you want to bring that child into the world when it was conceived in such a hateful way? When women have their periods they're killing potential eggs to be fertilized. Isn't that potentially the same thing as abortion? I don't know, what's your' guys' opinion on this topic?
Personally, I am very excited but very nervous at the same time for college. It is a very big step to take and after I graduate, I will basically be on my own from there. The whole finding a college and trying to decide what kinda career I want is very stressful. I wish that I could start my high school over so I can go back and try harder and focus more on school. Now that applying time is really here, I realized I screwed myself over on my past three years. The schools I can maybe get into are very limited. I remember being a freshman and not having a thought in the world about going to college. But that time came up soon and if I had to give advice to any incoming freshman, I definatly would tell them that they need to be focused their whole high school career becuase when senior year comes, everything will catch up to them.
So I think we're all pretty much in the same boat about college. Everyone is really nervous but excited at the same time. I just decided what I think I want to after high school, and I'm just starting to look at colleges. I pretty much screwed myself over with grades the first 3 years of high school, because back then I didnt know what I wanted to do so I wasn't focused and didnt care about school. So now I'm just looking at schools I can get into with my semi-ok grades. After visiting my sister at college, I'm really excited to get out of high school and go enjoy the college life. Even though we're all nervous, just think that if everyone else can do it, so can we.
Thursday, September 27, 2007
Response to Jim
I know how you feel because I want to play softball in college, but in a way I don't. It's going to be so hard not playing it anymore since I have for so long, but I kind of just want to have a normal college life. I think it's really up to you and what you want to do. I've heard stories about friends becoming enemies after rooming together too, but I think it's mostly girls. Usually guys get along pretty well and it's not like you have to be with him 24/7. You can still go out with other people and have him as your roommate. I think if you did room with him, you'd be fine because guys are a lot different than girls. And it's kind of up to you if you're willing to make sacrifices for basketball. You may not get to have much of a social life, but I heard that playing sports in college is an amazing experience. So it depends what you're willing to sacrifice. Just my opinion.
College choices for me has been really stressful. This decision that I will make will impact me for the rest of my life and I want to make the right one. I'm stuck with what I should do, I'm not sure if I want to go to U of I where i could go to or a smaller school to play basketball. I couldn't see not playing basketball for the rest of my life but i want to get out of my life as well and get a good job. Also i could room with one of my best friends but ive heard of many bad stories about friends rooming together. If you have any suggestions or input please feel free to tell me thanks.
college
Seems like a lot of people have difficulties with the college stuff. I think it's the natural things, most of people in our class are Senior so we have only about half year or less time to make a decision.
I,m planning to go Japanese college because I have more advantages to go there. What they will look for is my SAT and TOEFL score. TOEFL? may be you haven't heard that before, it is a " Test of English as a Foreign Language" evaluates the potential success of an individual to use and understand Standard American English at a college level. And also I need to write a paper in Japanese and send it to a college. So more advantage doesn't mean it is easy to get in. Like Stacey said, I,m nervous and exciting at the same time. I need to study pretty seriously.
I,m planning to go Japanese college because I have more advantages to go there. What they will look for is my SAT and TOEFL score. TOEFL? may be you haven't heard that before, it is a " Test of English as a Foreign Language" evaluates the potential success of an individual to use and understand Standard American English at a college level. And also I need to write a paper in Japanese and send it to a college. So more advantage doesn't mean it is easy to get in. Like Stacey said, I,m nervous and exciting at the same time. I need to study pretty seriously.
Iraq
I think that the war in Iraq doesn't make any sense anymore. Thousands of soldiers died in Iraq ,and the United States aren't winning that war. I think that it is a waste of money and soldiers' lives. Hussain is dead ,and nobody knows where Osama Bin Laden is. America did everything they could to improve the lives of people in Iraq. But now they should start rebuilding their country by themselves. They should show that they can take care of themselves. After a couple of years they can be a really strong country with a really good leader.
College
I have been so stressed and freaking out about it. It's scary and exciting at the same time. It's so much pressure. You're scores have to be good enough. You have to have a certain GPA. You have to be different from everyone else, even though they're trying to do the same thing. I just hope that I go to the right college and love it. I can't wait to meet so many new people and have the time of my life. I really think that I will be fine on my own, as much as I'll miss my family.
Wednesday, September 26, 2007
Iraq
Sadly to say I'm in Kim's position and not knowing too much about the war in Iraq. The last time I have been really updated was in Mr. Widolowski's world Geo. class last year and we would always watch news on line about it. Not that much of it made sense to me but we were basically updated when a huge bomb went off or when someone that was from Illinois or someone close by was killed. I remember hearing that we were trying to get the soldiers out of Iraq by beginning of 2008 but Bush wants to keep them in there for some strange reason. Personally I think we should have a soldiers out of there soon. It doesn't really seem like we have progressed anywhere and more of our men keep dying. What's the point of having our soldiers there if we can't accomplish what we have been trying to do for the last how many year's? Again like Kim said there are many days where I don't even realize that we are in this war.
I know we are there because we are to protect the Iraq people and other reason's but we can't be protecting them for the next 3 or 4 years to come. And what happens when we do pull out of Iraq? Will America be happy when our troops come home but knowing that their could be danger towards us because we have turned our back to Iraq or will we still stay and continue to have our soldiers killed?
I know we are there because we are to protect the Iraq people and other reason's but we can't be protecting them for the next 3 or 4 years to come. And what happens when we do pull out of Iraq? Will America be happy when our troops come home but knowing that their could be danger towards us because we have turned our back to Iraq or will we still stay and continue to have our soldiers killed?
College
Omg so all my parents and most of my teachers worry is about college. My parent dont get off my back they are like did you apply and stuff. I dont really want to go out of state because I dont think I will settle there also I didnt do that well on my ACT. But I am taking it again next month on a sat. gotta wake up early. But I am just thinking if I should go to harper for 2 years then transfer to UIC. I am thinking about the pre med major. I just wonder where I will get into though like every other person. I have no life at all right now I just have to worry about college. My brother went to college and he dropped out but I dont want to be like him hes 23 years old and now he wants to go back. I am going to go to college full time and become something. I also wonder how am I going to repay a loan I dont have a job.College is going to be so much more work no more high school. But high school is weird for me because I dont no many people at Fremd and I am a senior by the time I become good friends with some one where gone.....We got a test tom. I AM GOING TO GO STUDY!!!
Immigration
I believe that letting immigrants into our country is wrong. We already have so many immigrants allowed into our country and if we allowed everyone who wanted to live in America come, then our country would turn into China. China is overpopulated and their workers are not paid well and are treated very poorly. If all immigrants were allowed to come here everyone with a good paying job would be fired and people who would work for under minimum wage would be hired. That is why the government put a limit on how many immigrants would be allowed into the United States.
Well...it's been a while since I've been on here, and I've been trying to catch up with everyone's posts. The one thing I have to say is going off of Soo Bin's comments on gay marriage. If you believe that God made man and woman for the sole purpose to reproduce, then couldn't you say that in this day in age, he created people to be gay to counteract overpopulation problems? When people were first present on this earth, it was a priority to reproduce in order to survive. Now today we are dealing with crowding issues and overpopulation in many other countries. It's possible that there appear to be more openly gay and lesbian people just because it's more accepted now, but it's also possible that if you believe in God, he created them in order to relieve the earth of population issues. (everything happens for a reason) The last line of Soo Bin's post is " People should live like how god have created us." Who are we to say that God didn't create people gay or stright? If you believe there is a god and He's a loving god, then he made us to love each other, gay or straight. Those people are just trying to live a happy life. Whether or not there are specific genes that specify one or the other, we don't know whether or not it's a choice or if it's in their genetic makeup. I know this is off of a really old post, but i just thought I'd throw my opinion out there.
immigration cont..
I completely agree that people should be allowed into the united states as long as they follow the rules. However I think that it should be done in a legal way, I don't think jumping the boarder is helping anyone. If we just legalized it and let them in in an orderly fashion things would be much better. When I was in California 2 years ago the traffic I was in was stopped by an immigration rights parade. I think its sad how tons of kids are basically stuck in limbo when there illegal immigrants, its like they get here and then they cant work legally or go to school legally because there illegal. I think that the DREAM ACT the law thats trying to be passes should definatly get passed. The law states that "illegal immigrants who entered the U.S. before the age of 16, and have lived here at least five years, should receive conditional legal status if they have graduated from high school and have a clean record. After six years, they could become permanent legal residents if they serve in the U.S. military for at least two years or complete at least two years of college. As with most green card holders, they could apply for citizenship after five years"
I think that this would help increase our military and it would give kids a chance to do somthing good with there life, because inevitably they would be forced to go to school and graduate, and ontop of it all they could be kept out of trouble in order to have a clean record. It really sucks though because basically there arnt enough people supporting this to make it pass.
Also does anyone remember when the baby was born in the airplane over America going to land in America but they were debating weather the baby was a citizen since it was born in the air? Although it is supposed to be illegal to fly to America when your that pregnant, I still think that there should have been no questions and we should have welcomed the baby and mother into our country. I guess I think it just makes us look like complete assholes when we make the littlest of things into the biggest deals. One other thing, do they turn us down in mexico if we want to live there and become a citizin!?
I think that this would help increase our military and it would give kids a chance to do somthing good with there life, because inevitably they would be forced to go to school and graduate, and ontop of it all they could be kept out of trouble in order to have a clean record. It really sucks though because basically there arnt enough people supporting this to make it pass.
Also does anyone remember when the baby was born in the airplane over America going to land in America but they were debating weather the baby was a citizen since it was born in the air? Although it is supposed to be illegal to fly to America when your that pregnant, I still think that there should have been no questions and we should have welcomed the baby and mother into our country. I guess I think it just makes us look like complete assholes when we make the littlest of things into the biggest deals. One other thing, do they turn us down in mexico if we want to live there and become a citizin!?
Tuesday, September 25, 2007
War
My cousin is over in Iraq right now and it's so scary having a family member that I'm close to there. Right of high school he went to training to be in the army. He had been sent to Iraq and when he came back home he said he didn't want to go back there. About a year ago he was being stationed in Germany for 4 years. A couple months ago he told us he was going back to Iraq. I really like that he's trying to help our country, but it's hard to not be able to talk to him. We are working so hard over there, and yet we're not getting that far. We can't always think we are going to save the world. I think that we sometimes need to let other countries figure things out on their own, and if we think we're in danger then step in. Now that we have gone there and damaged so much in that country, we have to keep our promise so that other countries don't think that we just destroy to get what we want and leave.
Comments
I want to comment on a couple posts... First, I don't think anyone is saying anything bad about the soldiers fighting. As a matter of fact, the people I know doing the most to support our troops (sending letters, supplies, and leading homefront efforts) are the same people demonstrating against the war. I am one of those people. Second, to answer some of what Kim was wondering about... We are in Iraq right now doing exactly what Sabrina discussed. Protecting a fledging democracy. We invaded, destroyed the infrastructure, and diposed the ruling government. Now we are working to repair those things, because one thing we have learned from history is if you go in an tear it up you need to be willing to put it back together... the difference between the results of WWI and WWII... Great discussion so far!
agree w/ yoshi
Alright, so I agree that we aren't really moving anywhere in Iraq, however I also think we should take a step back and be grateful that people are willing to go to another country and risk their lives for what is supposedly right.(even though I don't necessarily think its right). Although I don't think we should have ever moved in on them in the first place, were there now and we cant just leave it without cleaning up the mess we've made. I have a friend who's in Iraq fighting right now, and all hes doing is burying his friends and eating really crappy food. Hes been there for like idk I think like way more than a year, maybe 2. And all he wants to do is come home. So if were not going to support the war, I say we at least support the people trying to help.
Monday, September 24, 2007
agree
I agree with Tim. I also think that the US should stop sending troops to Iraq. U.S is spending too much money and over sending troops to Iraq, and it dosn't seem things are going right direction. I often hears the news about "death by suicide bomb" or any other cause. It's just adding more hopeless victim and makeing American economy worse.
Now our president is trying to send more troops in Iraq, how many people will agree with this idea? PEACE
Now our president is trying to send more troops in Iraq, how many people will agree with this idea? PEACE
Hello
Adding on Kimberly's comments about the Iraq war. Before, i thought that the war in Iraq was going to end all terrorism and bloodshed in Iraq as well as the US. I was wrong. The war in Iraq turned out to be worse than I expected. Thousands of people are dying for different causes and still the war isn't over. Now, the government is planning to send more troops abroad fight. I just think that the US should stop sending troops to Iraq because its just adding more deaths to soldiers and civilian. Peace
Gay marriage
Wow why do some states have to ban gay marriage gay people have feelings to. They just like there kind what is wrong with that they can do what they want its there life. Why do states have to ban and other dont mind. Thats like being racist towards gay and lesbians. I dont mind them getting married there humans like us thats there life they choose. They love each other so why bother them I dont understand why people hate on gay people its like get a life and worry about your self. No I am not just taking there side I am speaking the truth and NO I am not gay at all. I love my baby mama so let them love there man and stuff. I hate when people just talk trash about the gays it ticks me off.....
Iraq
Argh I tried SO hard not to even log in, but I'm SO FREAKING BORED! Anyways, I agree with Julianne. We need to get out, but we also need to give the people a chance to set up a Democratic government. It wouldn't be fair of us to leave suddenly when we basically busted in and tore apart the only form of government these people have ever known. However it's also quite unfair for some of these ass-holes (pardon the swears) to be blowing up our soldiers, whom might I remind you, some of don't even BELIEVE in this war. It's sad and unnerving that these men and women are risking their LIVES to protect these people and make theirs lives better, and these dumb ass Taliban guys come and decide to blow them up. I'm not very religious, um at all, but NOWHERE int he Quran, the Muslim bible, does it say to be a suicide bomber or kill other people in the name of God. If you die in WAR in the name of God, that's a different story. I digress, I just don't understand why people feel the need to persecute others, i.e our troops, for wanting to help them. I have friends over there whom I worry about constantly, and if my dad hadn't gone into the reserves five or so years ago, I'd be worried about him dying over there as well....
Iraq
So attempting to comment on Mr. Spoor's question...
(I promise to try to keep this short!!)
About Iraq...
Lately, I have not been following the war as attentively as I had been the first few years of war. I sometimes forget we are even in a real war, because unless you know a soldier or someone directly involved, we aren't really affected by it on a daily basis. I don't follow politics as much as some teens do, but I am pretty good about knowing the easy version of what's going on in the world. Ever since the beginning of war, i have been against our troops being over there and I have never been Bush's biggest fan. I don't want to get into a huge debate about Republicans, Democrats, Bush haters and Bush lovers, but I do want to say that I think he needs to figure out a way to get us tof there quick. Way too many young men and women have died in in the years since September 11, 2001. It is necesary to reduce the number of troops... I mean, we originally went over there to stop Osama, then we were looking for "weapons of mass destruction" (did we ever find those??) Sadaam is dead (lets not get me started on that...) , and now... wait, what are we doing there now? Honestly... that's my question. Who is a regular newspaper reader/knowlegable person about the war? What are we fighting for?
(I promise to try to keep this short!!)
About Iraq...
Lately, I have not been following the war as attentively as I had been the first few years of war. I sometimes forget we are even in a real war, because unless you know a soldier or someone directly involved, we aren't really affected by it on a daily basis. I don't follow politics as much as some teens do, but I am pretty good about knowing the easy version of what's going on in the world. Ever since the beginning of war, i have been against our troops being over there and I have never been Bush's biggest fan. I don't want to get into a huge debate about Republicans, Democrats, Bush haters and Bush lovers, but I do want to say that I think he needs to figure out a way to get us tof there quick. Way too many young men and women have died in in the years since September 11, 2001. It is necesary to reduce the number of troops... I mean, we originally went over there to stop Osama, then we were looking for "weapons of mass destruction" (did we ever find those??) Sadaam is dead (lets not get me started on that...) , and now... wait, what are we doing there now? Honestly... that's my question. Who is a regular newspaper reader/knowlegable person about the war? What are we fighting for?
College can go *!@# itself
COLLEGE that's all im allowed to think about anymore. My mind does nothing but remind me that i dont know where im goin, how im gettin there, and what money ill use to pay for it. Senior year is suppoded to rock but it just makes me worry about college and i have no clue what to do. I have basically no money, so loans are a must. Im not sure what i wanna be and where i wanna go. They expect kids to plan their entire lives when they are only 17 years old, and personally i can barely plan what im doing tomorrow! I wish i had a time machin to go back to when i was young and i could start planning my future early. ACT sucks thats a fact. One number plans your entire future...great... This is how my senior year has been going: School, set crew, work, work, work, homework, and what little time i have left is socical life and sleep. Man senior year is rough. Good thing I dont have to read a book every quarter... oh wait...
I'm going to be the first one in my family to make it to college- I'm the older child and neither of my parents went. I sometimes wish I had the experience from them so they could help me out and tell me what it was like, but at the same time I'm really glad about it. Neither of my parents were great students, so they are already proud of me for my grades and ACT. Of course they want me to do the best I can, but they are already happy with where I'm going to be going to college. I'm happy with my scores and I'm a good student anyway, but it feels good to know that I've already done enough and now all I can do is push myself for my own personal satisfaction. So that's what I'm doing...
And in response to Kim's post: I feel the same way you do about worrying about where I will get in. I don't have older siblings to live up to, but I do have dream schools. I'm kind of in love with one of my safety schools though, so that is really cool because I'm pretty sure I will get in there and I know I will love life there. But I really want to get into my dream school, I can't even imagine the feeling- everything I've been working for will finally pay off. And if not, it will still be college, and it will still be amazing for sure.
And in response to Kim's post: I feel the same way you do about worrying about where I will get in. I don't have older siblings to live up to, but I do have dream schools. I'm kind of in love with one of my safety schools though, so that is really cool because I'm pretty sure I will get in there and I know I will love life there. But I really want to get into my dream school, I can't even imagine the feeling- everything I've been working for will finally pay off. And if not, it will still be college, and it will still be amazing for sure.
university of... Anywhere
So I just finished reading the most recent posts, and I found myself nodding my head as I read everything Elaina wrote. My biggest fear is that I am going to have to settle... to go to that "saftey school" I am applying to because I know I'll get in easily. Both of my sisters got into great schools, had excellent ACTS and gpas, and got scholarships. Trying to live up to them has been tough, especially this past year. Although around my house and school I put on a happy face as the girl who's finished her apps and is ready for the future, I am terrified. Every day I worry about... what if I Don't get in to that one school I've been leaning towards.... that school that both of my sisters got into? What if I am just not good enough?
What a question... its a rough thing to have on my mind all day. I try not to let it get to me, as my boyfriend straight out told me the other day as i was worrying, "You have no control anymore! The applications are in, they know you're interested in their school... you have no control over what happens from here." His comment was rough but helpful, and I try to stress a little less, if possible. Are any of you struggling with compared to and living up to sibling's expectations?
ps: i am on the phone with my boyfriend and read my post out loud, and he once again wanted to stress, "You really shouldn't worry about it." But its so hard not to worry.... well, he's only a junior... he'll understand more next year i guess. :)
What a question... its a rough thing to have on my mind all day. I try not to let it get to me, as my boyfriend straight out told me the other day as i was worrying, "You have no control anymore! The applications are in, they know you're interested in their school... you have no control over what happens from here." His comment was rough but helpful, and I try to stress a little less, if possible. Are any of you struggling with compared to and living up to sibling's expectations?
ps: i am on the phone with my boyfriend and read my post out loud, and he once again wanted to stress, "You really shouldn't worry about it." But its so hard not to worry.... well, he's only a junior... he'll understand more next year i guess. :)
college..
just like everyone my parents are really hard on my college stuff.
i really hate it becuase they are really looking forward to it.
For me, i'm trying to get in the art school in new york.. because i want to major in fashion advertisement. and my parents are always like pushing me for better. i understand they want me to be successful but sometimes it gives me stress. They are like ACT and grades.. blah blah..
well i guess for art schools u don't really need to get good scores.. but they want the best. and i really don't like that. but i guess thats how all parents are. so yea..whatever.
i really hate it becuase they are really looking forward to it.
For me, i'm trying to get in the art school in new york.. because i want to major in fashion advertisement. and my parents are always like pushing me for better. i understand they want me to be successful but sometimes it gives me stress. They are like ACT and grades.. blah blah..
well i guess for art schools u don't really need to get good scores.. but they want the best. and i really don't like that. but i guess thats how all parents are. so yea..whatever.
I feel that we need to get out of Iraq. Not all at once, but our troops need to come home. I guess that is in the plans of Bush and the new candidates, and I'm definitely happy about that. I think that whatever our leaders thought they could accomplish over there should be done by now, and if it isn't we either need to let it go or reevaluate our plans and take a new path. That is really all I have to say about that.
And I'll just add that I'm ready to go to college. High school was good for me, but I'm ready to move on. I guess I should savor my last months here at Fremd, but I'm kind of wishing I had a fast forward button on my life to just bypass all of this stress and college preparation. Between homework in every class every day and activities, I seriously don't have time to be writing 15 extra essays. But it will be worth it!
And I'll just add that I'm ready to go to college. High school was good for me, but I'm ready to move on. I guess I should savor my last months here at Fremd, but I'm kind of wishing I had a fast forward button on my life to just bypass all of this stress and college preparation. Between homework in every class every day and activities, I seriously don't have time to be writing 15 extra essays. But it will be worth it!
College...
I agree with everyone about this whole college thing and parents pressuring you to get applications done and whatnot. My mom made me start all my applications over the summer because of my busy schedule. EVen though it was hell it takes a big wieght off your shoulders cuz once they are done you are so relieved. I'm kinda glad my mom made me do all that cuz now they are done but I don't even like thinking abotu college cuz now all i'm doing is waiting for my acceptance letters to be mailed out. I'm also really freaking out cuz like kim said this is our last homecoming and good old billy fremd. I also heard that college is a lot harder than high school and that it's a ton more work and i have no idea what i want to do wtih the rest of my life. It's so confusing I dont know what i want to be when I grow up! Ah thinking about college is so intimidating for me!
Iraq
To tell the truth I haven't really been keeping up with whats going on i Iraq. but whenever i do hear something about over in the middle east it is always about our soldiers being killed. i believe that we have been over there long enough and we have already accomplished our goals in capturing Saddam and we have put in a new government. i also believe that our presence in Iraq isn't making anything much better and we no longer need to be there. so i think that it is time for us to leave Iraq befor we lose more american lives.
College
I agree with Mitch, my parents are bugging me all the time. They want me to choose my major now. I try to tell them that I am not sure what I want to study. But they don't accept my answer. They say that if I want to get a good job, I have to decide right now. So I decided to study archaeology. I hope that they will leave me alone after I tell them that.
College...
About the college whole college deal. I can relate to everyone who is being pressured and parents who are freaking out and getting on your backs because those parents are mine and most everyone elses. Throughout the summer i was visiting colleges to shut my parents up. then shortly after applying and i figured that would be it. But no now they are bugging me everyday about writing essays and searching for scholarships. I'd have to say this past couple months has been one of the most annyoing parts of my life but i'm just hoping it will all be worth it. But so far i have been accepted into the Chicago Institute of Cooking and Hospitality and just sent an app for Art Institue of Illinois so we will see what happens with that.
Comments and Week 3
You have been having some great conversations on here, and I am really enjoying reading your thoughts and ideas. I will try to add some more of my own thoughts now that we have gotten off and rolling. I think this is really a great forum for us to have some great conversations... I hope Sabrina doesn't disappear when she is no longer grounded!
Anyway, I wanted to comment on the college topic. First, I understand your frustration with the adults in your lives, but keep in mind the only reason they are on your backs is because they want what is best for you. It will all be over soon and then you will be off and rolling. The idea and pressure of this time and going off to college can be daunting, but it is well worth the stress. College will be an amazing time for you and I am excited for the adventures you will have.
When you have been accepted somewhere I hope you will share it with the class or at least myself, because that is something to be proud of and we should celebrate the conclusion of your college search. One more thing... someone mentioned how it is scary to have to pay for it and how you will be paying until your late twenties or thirties. Let me tell you, I will not be done paying my school loans off until I am in my fifties, but every single penny is worth it, because I made it worth it. Sam said how it would all be worth it, but I am going to go one step further and say that you are really going to be the one that makes it worth it. I had friends who squandered their time in school... don't be that guy. Keep in mind how valuable your time in college is an get everything you can out of it... your classes, activities, dorm life/greek life... whatever you choose!
Alright, now for what I was thinking might be an interesting topic... Iraq. What do you think about our continued involvement in Iraq... explain your thoughts... You have access to the articles available right on this blog to do a little reading before you post if you feel like you need to. Like always, you can add a new topic or thought if you would like, but I just wanted to toss this one out there.
Anyway, I wanted to comment on the college topic. First, I understand your frustration with the adults in your lives, but keep in mind the only reason they are on your backs is because they want what is best for you. It will all be over soon and then you will be off and rolling. The idea and pressure of this time and going off to college can be daunting, but it is well worth the stress. College will be an amazing time for you and I am excited for the adventures you will have.
When you have been accepted somewhere I hope you will share it with the class or at least myself, because that is something to be proud of and we should celebrate the conclusion of your college search. One more thing... someone mentioned how it is scary to have to pay for it and how you will be paying until your late twenties or thirties. Let me tell you, I will not be done paying my school loans off until I am in my fifties, but every single penny is worth it, because I made it worth it. Sam said how it would all be worth it, but I am going to go one step further and say that you are really going to be the one that makes it worth it. I had friends who squandered their time in school... don't be that guy. Keep in mind how valuable your time in college is an get everything you can out of it... your classes, activities, dorm life/greek life... whatever you choose!
Alright, now for what I was thinking might be an interesting topic... Iraq. What do you think about our continued involvement in Iraq... explain your thoughts... You have access to the articles available right on this blog to do a little reading before you post if you feel like you need to. Like always, you can add a new topic or thought if you would like, but I just wanted to toss this one out there.
Sunday, September 23, 2007
College again...
I HATEEEEEEE people who pressure us, tell us to act like adults, then turn around and say 'umm you are a CHILD, an immature CHILD who has no say in anything. You're dumb.' Seriously, 'adults' need to make up their MINDS!!!!!! it's so aggravating to get the two ended sword from them. either treat me like a child and don't expect me to do ANYTHING productive, or treat me with the maturity of all this CRAP you're loading on me!!! AHHHHHH!!
P.s COWBOYS BABAY!!!!!!!! OH YEA 34 to 10!!!!!!!
P.s COWBOYS BABAY!!!!!!!! OH YEA 34 to 10!!!!!!!
To respond to Soobin
Gays and lesbians arent born that way?? What you think that one day they wake up and say "I think I'll be gay today" ? They dont. You think they want to go through all the hardships that come with being gay or lesbian. It aint easy. I have a gay brother and he got beat up for being gay. He didnt ask to be beat up. And he didnt choose to be gay....and it had nothing to do with the enviroment he was raised in. They are born gay or lesbian. They dont choose. In the bible it says only god will jugde people(somewhere along those lines). And if god really had a problem with gays or lesbians there wouldnt be any. We are all not suppose to be the same cuz if we were we would all be either all men or women. I support gays and lesbians 100%. They do not choose to be that way. They are born that way. They dont want to be/choose to be rallied against, beaten up, or killed because of thier sexual orientation.
Im sorry if people dont like wat im sayin but if a subject like this comes up i will fight for the rights/argue about it til the day i die.
Im sorry if people dont like wat im sayin but if a subject like this comes up i will fight for the rights/argue about it til the day i die.
Gay Marriage
I dont uderstand why people are so against it. I have NO problem with it. Love is Love, no matter wat color, shape, or gender. Who cares if gays get married, its not like they are hurting anyone. People are just scared of the "different". This world just judges too much. People need to get over it. Gays were here in the past, they are here in the present, and they are gonna be here in the future. GET OVER IT!
College
Man, I feel you guys about the whole applying to college thing. It is stressful and scary. I've filled out applications by now but I haven't sent any in yet because I still have to finish up my portfolio. It's hard to think that something that I'm putting so much work into could end up with a rejection letter. But I try not to think about things like that... I'm applying to a couple of art schools but I really can't decide right now whether I want a fine arts degree or something with journalism or creative writing. Some people i talk to are skeptical of my choices because they involve competitive industries, but these are the things that i love right now and I've decided to go for it if I can. I'd advise anyone in a similar situation to do the same...if theres something that you love to do but aren't sure that you can make a future in it, college is your chance to figure it out. Going into all this right now it can seem like you are in a way choosing your destiny by choosing a school and a major to prepare for a job that you can do for your whole life. Not the case. Its important to remember that what you do 10 years from now could be completely different from what you do 15 or 20 years from now. We have the opportunity to have different jobs and different lifestyles throughout our lives if we want to. If you really have no idea what you want to do, get a libral arts degree. It will give you time to expand your horizans and you can go anywhere from there.
OH AND THERE'S MORE RANTING WHERE THAT CAME FROM!
Oh yeah and Sabrina I feel you... our counselors are CRAZY PEOPLE!! Especially mine... she like stalks me to make me talk college to her and I really just don't want to. And she was telling my friends where to apply and stuff and I was just thinking the whole time hearing these stories like, "If she ever tells me which schools to apply to or which schools she thinks are my 'reach' schools, I will throw a fit." I'll apply where I want, dammit! =) No but for real, I feel exactly the same with all this pressure from random people and all these people telling me things I still have to do or add on to applications or blah blah blah and it really gets to me sometimes. I had like a breakdown one day and Mr. Patton, bless that man, talked to me about college for like half an hour and made me feel a little less freaked out about it but I'm still like... I don't even know. I have an idea what I want to do like... with my life... but the thing is, it's science related... and my science grades the past couple years have not been quite as fantastic as you would expect someone who wants to become a pediatrician or a children's psychiatrist to be!! So I'm freaking out about that, too! I pose the question... why do people like making 18 year olds feel like their world is going to crumble down on them during this "application" period?! RAHH!!!!
College?! AHH!
Oh my gosh. The idea of college makes me want to screaaam.
Okay, so I can't wait to go to college.... I want to experience the whole "college scene" and college life stuff... I just don't want to actually have to go to SCHOOL, you know?! And filling out all these applications is FREAKING ME OUT. I feel like I'm not going to get accepted to any of the schools I actually want to go to, and I'm going to have to settle for something if you know what I mean. College is expensive as hell and I feel like settling for a school would be a HUGE waste of money and I would regret that so much, but I'm so nervous that I'm not going to get in where I want to!! I have no time to fill out applications either, and this year my class load is really hard but I'm doing well so far and it frustrates me that the colleges aren't going to see that on my applications because this year's work doesn't really go on my application. AHH! I seriously have like anxiety attacks when I think about this!! SO STRESSFUL! And to top it all off I'm a huge procrastinator and so now I have like 6 schools to apply to in like 2 weeks. So fun, I know!
Okay, so I can't wait to go to college.... I want to experience the whole "college scene" and college life stuff... I just don't want to actually have to go to SCHOOL, you know?! And filling out all these applications is FREAKING ME OUT. I feel like I'm not going to get accepted to any of the schools I actually want to go to, and I'm going to have to settle for something if you know what I mean. College is expensive as hell and I feel like settling for a school would be a HUGE waste of money and I would regret that so much, but I'm so nervous that I'm not going to get in where I want to!! I have no time to fill out applications either, and this year my class load is really hard but I'm doing well so far and it frustrates me that the colleges aren't going to see that on my applications because this year's work doesn't really go on my application. AHH! I seriously have like anxiety attacks when I think about this!! SO STRESSFUL! And to top it all off I'm a huge procrastinator and so now I have like 6 schools to apply to in like 2 weeks. So fun, I know!
Gay Marriage
It is completely ridiculous to me that gay marriage is illegal in most states. If you ask me, love is love man. It seems like in this day and age we've come so far in so many ways but with this issue our laws are so stuck in the past. I understand that in some religions marriage is a bond that is to be made specifically between a man and a woman, but the thing about America is that we all have the right be believe in what we choose too. The beliefs of certain religions shouldn't affect our laws. Marriage isn't simply about religion or the relationship...if it was I don't think it would be so important to everyone, especially people who aren't religious. However, when you consider the financial security and economic potential that come with being married it makes things a bit different. Marraige gives people certain freedoms and responsibilities from a legal perspective that shouldn't be denied to gays and lesbians. In todays society marraige is recognized as a way of economic advancement and protection. What gives anyone the right to prevent people from seeking something that is so highly valued by our society?
I think that someday people are going to look back at this time as history and wonder how crazy we were to think that gays and lesbians shouldn't marry. Marriage is something that was created by people, not really by God, so I don't really understand that argument. The whole Christian message is to accept and love people, right? So how do "Christians" justify telling other human beings that their LOVE is wrong?
I want to burn my college applications. The whole process is so exciting, but scary and tedious at the same time. Like the majority of you, I don't really know what I want to do with my life. I guess I have some general direction and that's a start, but I want to figure the rest out in college. That is what the college experience is all about in my opinion.
I want to burn my college applications. The whole process is so exciting, but scary and tedious at the same time. Like the majority of you, I don't really know what I want to do with my life. I guess I have some general direction and that's a start, but I want to figure the rest out in college. That is what the college experience is all about in my opinion.
I'm glad we started talking about this on here because it is a huge issue and is going on right now in every one of our lives. College terrifies me too...
yeah I don't know about you guys, but something really hit me recently and I realized... this is our last homecoming at Fremd.
I love high school, everything about it. The people, the hallways (not the new hospital looking offices...but anyway..) the football games, the passing periods, the spirit days... EvErYtHiNg! I love it. And the idea of college is exciting and going to be a blast, but its also a scary idea. As we continue with our senior year, I hope we all enjoy every last bit of it... soak up as much Billy Fremd as you can. Because even though we will fall in love with whatever university we end up going to, there's never going to be a place like high school again in our lives.
Also, about applications...
my mom was pressuring me to the max to get them done before school started. I procrastinated a lot, but I squeezed in time to work on them between dinner and homework, or practice, and over time I eventaully finished them. Once you get them done, it is big weight off your shoulders... so as tough as it is, I strongly suggest setting some of your free time aside and just finishing them up. Once you get started they really arent that bad and dont take Too long.
Although its a huge weight of your shoulders, it also begins a little bit of fear and anxiety in you the day your applications get mailed out. I cannot stop thinking about the fact that it is out of my hands now, and if the school I want to go to doesn't say yes, I can't reapply. That's it. So I keep praying and hoping I get into the main schools I want to get into, and that I find out soon. Because I always have a little stressed thought in my head about... "Hey, wait a minute... what if they dont say yes?"
Good luck with your essays and apps, everyone!
yeah I don't know about you guys, but something really hit me recently and I realized... this is our last homecoming at Fremd.
I love high school, everything about it. The people, the hallways (not the new hospital looking offices...but anyway..) the football games, the passing periods, the spirit days... EvErYtHiNg! I love it. And the idea of college is exciting and going to be a blast, but its also a scary idea. As we continue with our senior year, I hope we all enjoy every last bit of it... soak up as much Billy Fremd as you can. Because even though we will fall in love with whatever university we end up going to, there's never going to be a place like high school again in our lives.
Also, about applications...
my mom was pressuring me to the max to get them done before school started. I procrastinated a lot, but I squeezed in time to work on them between dinner and homework, or practice, and over time I eventaully finished them. Once you get them done, it is big weight off your shoulders... so as tough as it is, I strongly suggest setting some of your free time aside and just finishing them up. Once you get started they really arent that bad and dont take Too long.
Although its a huge weight of your shoulders, it also begins a little bit of fear and anxiety in you the day your applications get mailed out. I cannot stop thinking about the fact that it is out of my hands now, and if the school I want to go to doesn't say yes, I can't reapply. That's it. So I keep praying and hoping I get into the main schools I want to get into, and that I find out soon. Because I always have a little stressed thought in my head about... "Hey, wait a minute... what if they dont say yes?"
Good luck with your essays and apps, everyone!
Sabrina you're just crazy. no I'm kidding i understand what you mean. I'm afraid that i might decide on a job that goes no where. or that i might not enjoy doing it. I've taken those interest quizzes to see what i enjoy doing and what might be a good job possibility but they always come back the same. TIED. i like doing a lot of stuff. and when i try to sit down and think of what i want to do i can't picture myself doing anything for THE REST OF MY LIFE. i want to enjoy my job and it would also be great if i got paid a lot of money to do it. everyone always thinks of the same careers like a doctor, teacher, playing professional sport , or criminal justice. but there are so many other things to do right now that i don't know what's out there.
Agh it just scares me a little. i want to forget about all this stuff and enjoy my senior year with my friends. because at the end of the year they will be going to school all across the country. and that scares me too. that next year my friends will want to go and do other things and i won't see them as much as i do now. so i want to spend this time that i have with them now.
Agh it just scares me a little. i want to forget about all this stuff and enjoy my senior year with my friends. because at the end of the year they will be going to school all across the country. and that scares me too. that next year my friends will want to go and do other things and i won't see them as much as i do now. so i want to spend this time that i have with them now.
College
I agree with Krysti, I'm freaking out about college. Yea I'm excited to move out and what not but I'm freaking out about what to major in. There's SO much pressure now from parents and counselors and just PEOPLE to KNOW what you want to do that I just want to be like STOP! I mean c'mon by the time we graduate from college there's going to be SO many new job opportunities that we probably can't even fathom what they are. That's what I'm more scared about, is the fact that I won't be able to get a good paying job with good benefits when I graduate from college. Is anybody else thinking along the same lines as me or am I just crazy?
College Applications
I get really stressed when I think about college...to be honest I hate change, like the remodeling of the school, and college is defiantly going to be a HUGE change so I have to find some way to cope with it. I haven't started my applications yet, but I am today. I keep on prolonging on doing them because I don't want to write the college essays because I suck at writing. Its also kind of hard to find time do them, kinda. Especially during the school week. I have swim practice from 3-6:30 every night so by the time I get home, eat dinner, do my homework, I'm exhausted and want to go to bed. I also have practice 3 days a week at 6 in the morning so I defiantly don't want to stay up any later then I have to. On weekends I wanna get away from my busy schedule and just go hang out but now that applications are due soon the stress raises higher and higher. I haven't had that much pressure from my parents but I know I am expected to do them soon.
I also have the same problem as Jaclyn in a similar way. I'm defiantly not loaded with money and my parents may not pay that much at all for college. I work over the summer and in the winter life guarding to try and get some money saved up for college but of course that will not be enough. I wish I could get a scholarship in water polo or swimming but those are really hard to get. I also agree with Jaclyn on the scholarships. It seems like there are so many scholarships our there but when you see certain ones they only accept like 2 people from our area/state to get them and there are thousands of students who also trying to get this money. I know I'm going to college and I will probably be paying off loans in the future, but my parents didn't go to college so this is something I feel like I have to do to make my parents proud.
I also have the same problem as Jaclyn in a similar way. I'm defiantly not loaded with money and my parents may not pay that much at all for college. I work over the summer and in the winter life guarding to try and get some money saved up for college but of course that will not be enough. I wish I could get a scholarship in water polo or swimming but those are really hard to get. I also agree with Jaclyn on the scholarships. It seems like there are so many scholarships our there but when you see certain ones they only accept like 2 people from our area/state to get them and there are thousands of students who also trying to get this money. I know I'm going to college and I will probably be paying off loans in the future, but my parents didn't go to college so this is something I feel like I have to do to make my parents proud.
Immigration
I feel that immigration is a real problem these days in the United Staes because so many people want to come here to have freedoms and to have a better life. I think that we have to find a way to allow immigrants who have been living here for long time to get get citizenship easier because I hear that it is nearly impossible these days. Also, I don't really know much about the illegal immigrant problem and I was wondering if anyone did by chance. I mean yeah people are coming into our country but if they are coming here with good cause just to find a job and help to put food on their family's table then what's the problem?
College Apps
Yeah I just wanted to talk a little about college because it's right around the corner. Are you guys getting pressured by everyone to get your college applications done? I don't know about you guys but it is getting ridiculous with me. My mom and Dad are always on my back about writing the essays and if you do them now you'll have a better chance of getting in. It is like one more thing I have to worry about and it is really starting to get on my nerves. I mean I have to write papers for school, do homework, go to work, and play soccer so I don't really have the free time to be applying to 6 different colleges all with 1 or 2 essays to answer. Also, thousands of kids these days pay for their own education. I am pretty sure that whoever has to do this will be fine. Yes it is a hassle to pay off your student loans, but in the long run it will be way worth it.
To: Jaclyn, regarding college...
I'm in the same boat as you are; I have to pay for my college education as well. I know it's a sucky thing to hear, but even with scholarships we will be paying off student loans for a while. But people do it all the time and it isn't that bad; my sisters are both going through all of that right now and they're fine. I remember Mrs. Dahlem talking to my creative comp class and mentioning a website that has a lot of those wacky and wasy to apply for scholarships. I'll ask her Monday morning and hopefully have it in class for you sixth hour. If I can't get a hold of her, I'll post the website on here tomorrow night.
not to start a debate, but....
So I'm not trying to start some heated religious debate or bash anyone else's ideas at all... but just to share my opinion...
I understand and respect where you are coming from, soobin, but i completely disagree. I am also Christian/Catholic. I am a teen group leader and a Eucharistic Minister at my church, Holy Family, and I also attend Willow Creek occasionally. But I agree with what some other classmates have been saying... I have studied parts of the Bible and I love listening to gospels and talks, and hearing everyone's opinions, viewpoints and interpretations of the Bible.
That brings me to my main point. The Bible is, in my opinion, Not meant to be taken literally. I do not believe God created the world in seven 24 hour days... one day for him could have been thousands of years long. I do not believe he literally created a man from dirt an a woman from the man's rib... that's like saying without men, women wouldn't be around and that we depend on them, (which would bring me to a whole other issue so im not going there) The Bible states that Moses lifted water into the air and parted the red sea, that Jesus literally turned wine and bread into his physical body and blood, as Mr. Spoor mentioned a few weeks ago in class.
The Bible is meant to be interpreted... I mean, look at the gospels. There are five gospels, with the same stories about Jesus, all from different people's points of view. They are all pretty similar, but have a few differences. This proves that the Bible, and those who wrote it, is interpreted and recorded from what people believed and saw and how they reacted to it.
Just because, as some ignorant people say, "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve", I don't think it is in our power as fellow human beings to force others to follow our opinions. Everyone interprets the Bible differently; it wasn't meant to be taken literally. Part of being Catholic is interpreting the Bible, as Mr. Spoor also mentioned.. Other religions take everything in it literally and don't realize it is a book of stories, created and told by people who knew Jesus. Stories are full of symbolism and deeper meaning and things to be interpreted...as is the Bible.
I understand and respect where you are coming from, soobin, but i completely disagree. I am also Christian/Catholic. I am a teen group leader and a Eucharistic Minister at my church, Holy Family, and I also attend Willow Creek occasionally. But I agree with what some other classmates have been saying... I have studied parts of the Bible and I love listening to gospels and talks, and hearing everyone's opinions, viewpoints and interpretations of the Bible.
That brings me to my main point. The Bible is, in my opinion, Not meant to be taken literally. I do not believe God created the world in seven 24 hour days... one day for him could have been thousands of years long. I do not believe he literally created a man from dirt an a woman from the man's rib... that's like saying without men, women wouldn't be around and that we depend on them, (which would bring me to a whole other issue so im not going there) The Bible states that Moses lifted water into the air and parted the red sea, that Jesus literally turned wine and bread into his physical body and blood, as Mr. Spoor mentioned a few weeks ago in class.
The Bible is meant to be interpreted... I mean, look at the gospels. There are five gospels, with the same stories about Jesus, all from different people's points of view. They are all pretty similar, but have a few differences. This proves that the Bible, and those who wrote it, is interpreted and recorded from what people believed and saw and how they reacted to it.
Just because, as some ignorant people say, "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve", I don't think it is in our power as fellow human beings to force others to follow our opinions. Everyone interprets the Bible differently; it wasn't meant to be taken literally. Part of being Catholic is interpreting the Bible, as Mr. Spoor also mentioned.. Other religions take everything in it literally and don't realize it is a book of stories, created and told by people who knew Jesus. Stories are full of symbolism and deeper meaning and things to be interpreted...as is the Bible.
college
I have been looking through scholarships for college and have noticed that unless i am a minority or have a high GPA there really isn't a scholarship for me. I don't fit into the high grades category and i am a white middle class female so there aren't many scholarships available to me. I find it hard to look for colleges because i am so concerned with what it will cost. If i go to a 4 year college than i will graduate with loans that will need to be payed off. i don't want to spend most of my 20's and 30's paying off these loans when i should be out there raising money for a house or for my future. i know there are scholarships out there for weird things like being tall or left handed but they aren't accessible to everyone. where do we find these scholarships? and if they are out there then why do so many people go to school with loans and not have the access to them? this subject has given me a lot of thought and i spend my time thinking of how i am going to go to college. I have to pay for my tuition. my parents aren't. so this matter is important to me and how i want to go through college. i don't want to spend my time paying off loans when i should be experiencing college and my life.
gay marriage
OK there has been a lot of discussion on this and a lot of things have been brought up. i like how nick said that he is freaked out a little by gay marriage but still accepts it. I think a lot of people bash things that they don't understand and it's great to see that he is understanding of it. I personally have known a gay couple ever since i was about 4. so to me gays aren't so strange to me. This couple is like family to me and i don't see them differently just because they are gay. They have been together for as long as I've known them. they recently went to Hawaii and had a ceremony so i believe they are married. they are a couple just like straight marriage so they should be able to share their lives together just like everyone else. This topic reminds me of the movie "i now pronounce you Chuck and Larry." if you have not seen this movie it is about 2 firefighters who pretend to be gay and get married so the one can have insurance or something, but during the movie the one guy is against gays but then once he spends time with them he starts sticking up for them and realizes their side. i understand that some people may not agree with gay marriage but can't they just let them be happy. you don't have to like just don't try to 'convert' them into being straight. Religion is a main issue with gay marriage. i can see where Soobin is coming from because that is how she is raised and I'm not going to say that i agree with what she is saying but i will let her have her beliefs and agree to understand her side.
Gay Marriage
I agree with Mr. Spoor. No human has the right to tell another who they can love. All in all, I feel that is a personal decision that a person chooses. If they want to marry someone with the same sex, we should just let them be. I think that it's important to look at the situation through the eyes of the two men or two women that love each other and want to marry each other. I just think it is so wrong that we live in a world today where some people have to hide their love for one another because they are often ridiculed for it. It is just not right. Also, going along with that assembly we went to this week, I think tht it is unconstitutional to say that two people cannot marry one another because they are of the same sex. I believe that it is their own rights and beliefs and if they want to marry each other, go right ahead.
Sam Callahan
Sam Callahan
Gay Marriages
For me gay marriages are kinda weird. I have no problem with gay people at all and when people have feelings for each other, those feelings are hard to control. In my religion gay marriages aren't right but when to people fall in love there isn't any one saying that you be together. I also think of it in a way as just having a couple that doesn't get married and is together for the rest of their lives. If gays were like this, being together for the rest of their lives, why don't they just let them get married. Isn't this supposed to be a free country? Obviously we have laws against drinking age and such sorts but why shouldn't people have the right to marry who they want. Gay's getting married is just another way of life and people should just learn to accept the fact that we can't control how the population feels about each other or how they live their lives (to a extent).
Saturday, September 22, 2007
Gay Marriage
Gay marriage is a controversy that has been going around the country for the last couple years. What is wrong with gay marriage is really the question. When two people love each other they have the right to show their love with commitment. A man and a women can get married and have been able to get married for as long as I can remember. With gays and lesbians it is a whole different story. There has been marches and debates about this subject and it just doesn't make sense. Everyone makes such a big deal out of it when all it is is love. There should not be judgment when it comes to gay marriage. My aunt is a lesbian and if she were to decide to get married I would be right there for her. I hate how people act so strange about this subject when all it really is are two people getting married because they want to spend the rest of their lives together.
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Soobin, although it doesn't say in the bible that 'god' created homosexuals, it also doesn't say that he created a fish that glows in the dark hundreds of depths under water. Honestly, most, people have become heretics to their own religion. By saying that homosexuality isn't in the bible, thus we shouldn't allow it, is quite hypocritical. In the bible is says no sex before marriage, tons of Christians break that vow everyday. It says that Christians shouldn't drink, yet I know only a handful who don't, and yet still preach to me about converting to Christianity and to not be a sinner. It says Christians should be accepting of all 'god's' people, yet everyday another person is being persecuted for his/her skin color by a supposed god loving Christian. Now I'm not here to do any religious bashing, at all, but honestly I find it hard to swallow when someone says that people aren't born into their sexuality. Someone doesn't CHOOSE to be black so he can be lynched, someone doesn't CHOOSE to be gay so he can be beat up on the street. It's how they were created. That's what I think the big misconception comes from. People don't choose who they fall in love with, it's what they FEEL.
I have nothing against gay marriage. I just don't really understand why it is illegal in some states and legal in others. Its a fact of life you fall in love with someone and you get married. Just with gays they fall in love wtih the same sex. yeah its not what we are used to at all we are used to man and women falling in love not the same sex. im not gonna lie i do find gay marriage strange btu thats just cuz its not what ususally happens. I dont think there should be an issue with it. Yes, some peolpe may not like it but they just have to deal with it cuz if someone falls in love wtih the same sex theres ntohing we can do about it they will find some way to be together anyway.
Gay Marriage
To be honest, homosexuality kind of freaks me out. It's strange and alien to me. Myself and a lot of other people don't understand it.
But I think it's completely stupid and ridiculous that gay people can't get married in many states. Nobody has the right to dictate who can or can't marry who. It just doesn't make sense to me why it would be illegal. People should have the right to love and get married, no matter what their sexual orientation is.
I think people need to be more tolerant of others. Even though I think homosexuality is strange, I don't think it's wrong. People should be able to marry who the want.
But I think it's completely stupid and ridiculous that gay people can't get married in many states. Nobody has the right to dictate who can or can't marry who. It just doesn't make sense to me why it would be illegal. People should have the right to love and get married, no matter what their sexual orientation is.
I think people need to be more tolerant of others. Even though I think homosexuality is strange, I don't think it's wrong. People should be able to marry who the want.
following up with kim/gay marriage..
well personally, i have nothing against gay or lesbians. i understand that people can fall in love with same sex. But i also think that the marriage isn't right. Let's say i'm christian. In the bible, God first created Adam and Eve. The point that he created male and female, he had reasons. He wanted male and female to produce children for next generation. He didn't want sexual relationship with homosexuals. Also, in the bible, it never said that he created gays or lesbians. Poeple arn't born to be gay/lesbian. It wasn't proven in bible or in science that poeple are born with it. I think the reason that gays/lesbians appear is becuase of their surrondings. Usually, people's feelings and emotions changes from their environment. i can't really force them to change their feelings straight, but i feel that they shouldn't get married. becuase they cannot make children. so i believe the gay marriage is not right. People should live like how god have created us.
Gay Marriage
Kim I totally agree with you. I am strongly for gay-marriage. Who came up with the idea of marriage to begin with? Why must people have a piece of paper to prove their devotion for one another? A single piece of paper that prevents a persons partner from getting his/her life insurance if they had died. In my mind I'm not going to get married unless all people are allowed to. Honestly there's nothing else I can say to describe how I feel about this.
Mr. Spoors Question
An issue that I feel strong about is immigration. I dont mind having people in the United States that want to live here and pay there taxes and follow are rules. People come from different countires to have a better life. But we make it horrible for them we kick them out or put them in jail. We have many immigrants in this country that are now citzens. I was once a immigrant but my dad lived in the united states for about 30 years and we all got Citzenship. Just because I was a immigrant I wouldnt fight for immigration. I just feel like people have to have a blue passport to stay in the US. But so many peopl ehave different veiws thats my view to something i would fight for.
Hallowen Costumes.
I dont understand why we cannot wear costumes this year. Teachers say it's a distraction but hallowen is celebrated once a year. So they should let us wear costumes, we can have fun for one day:). We come to school to learn, everybody knows that. But even if people are wearing costumes, it is us who choose to watch people and their costumes. If somebody doesn' want to learn something new, he/she will do something else. They will not listen to the teacher anyway. The school should allow us to wear costumes on hallowen because there is nothing bad or distracting about.
Answering Mr. Spoor's Question for this week
what is an issue that you feel very strongly about, an issue that you would put you into the street at a rally, demonstration, or protest?? Why is that issue so important to you?
An issue I feel very strongly about is the issue of gay rights. In some states, gay marriage is legal. In others, it's not. It really bothers me that people think they have the right to tell other people who they can and cannot be with. In the past, it was "wrong" to marry someone of a different social class...in the past, it was "wrong" to marry someone of another race...and now people are saying it is "wrong" to marry someone of the same sex. But to me, it shouldn't matter. I believe everyone can marry, love, be with Whoever they want... whatever color, size, height, race, or sex. No human has the right to tell another human being who they can and cannot love.
I understand that this is a controversial topic for some people. I also understand that some people bring factors like religion into this. Let me just say... I am a Catholic, I go to church every Sunday, and I believe in God. Yet I still believe that gay rights should be equal to others and that sexual orientation should never be an issue. Marriage is something made up by people...it is a legal and political thing, you sign documents and everything; God never said Marriage is between a man and a woman and they have to sign something and pay property taxtes together and sign prenups."
So why is it that politicians and lawmakers and people think that they have the power to say, "Marriage is meant for a man and a woman." Why does it matter who a person falls in love with?
An issue I feel very strongly about is the issue of gay rights. In some states, gay marriage is legal. In others, it's not. It really bothers me that people think they have the right to tell other people who they can and cannot be with. In the past, it was "wrong" to marry someone of a different social class...in the past, it was "wrong" to marry someone of another race...and now people are saying it is "wrong" to marry someone of the same sex. But to me, it shouldn't matter. I believe everyone can marry, love, be with Whoever they want... whatever color, size, height, race, or sex. No human has the right to tell another human being who they can and cannot love.
I understand that this is a controversial topic for some people. I also understand that some people bring factors like religion into this. Let me just say... I am a Catholic, I go to church every Sunday, and I believe in God. Yet I still believe that gay rights should be equal to others and that sexual orientation should never be an issue. Marriage is something made up by people...it is a legal and political thing, you sign documents and everything; God never said Marriage is between a man and a woman and they have to sign something and pay property taxtes together and sign prenups."
So why is it that politicians and lawmakers and people think that they have the power to say, "Marriage is meant for a man and a woman." Why does it matter who a person falls in love with?
Friday, September 21, 2007
Halloween Costumes
This year the school has decided to take away the option to wear Halloween costumes. I believe that this was not needed. We are told that Halloween costumes are a distraction to our learning environment. This is just not true. A costume is no different then a fancy shirt or a fluffy dress. One day out of the year students and teachers get to have fun and dress up as someone or something that they just aren't. Halloween costumes are just like our spirit days like the ones we are having next week. If these are distractions then spirit days should be taken away. And if spirit day is taken away then any bright colored shirt, pant, dress, ex. should also not be allowed because this would also be considered a distraction to learning process. While we are at it we should get rid of all creativity and go to uniforms. What is a distraction? Why would one outfit cause an entire class to be unable to learn. I don't even remember what I wore two weeks ago. Do you really think that I will remember what someone wore on Halloween? Halloween costumes are a way to express yourself and make the day at school more fun. We are older now and we are too old to trick or treat so the fun of costumes has gone down hill. Being able to wear costumes to school was a way for the older kids to get to experience Halloween and have a chance to go back down their childhood road. Costumes are not a distraction to the learning environment. They are simply a fun way to celebrate a holiday, just like how we wear red, white, and blue on the Fourth of July. Teachers and students alike enjoy being able to wear costumes. It is not fair that they are being taken away like this with no warning at all.
emutsoc (costume backwards)
So costumes...i like them, teachers like them, everyone likes them! i just want to know who banned them because i dont think they realized how big this would get, it's creating more of a problem than its worth. it's more of a distracttion leading up to halloween than halloween itself, because in all of our classes, even spanish class, we wasted class time arguing about the new rule. We're kids, it's fun, i dont see the problem. We've been dressing up for so long, why stop now? I know there were inappropriate costumes, but honestly who cares? are we going to fuss about everything. In bussiness law, we were talking about how certain rules and certain laws create more problems. Yes, there has to be some limitations and boundaries, but to just reject something altogether is completely insane. administration will have their hands full on halloween when everyone dresses up. I doubt any of the teachers really feel like punishing kids for having fun. The rule is useless if no one believes in it and is unrealistic. There are already so many things we cant do, for ONE day, does it really matter? i dont think so!
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